Benedict XVI’s - Dismissal of the relevance of Human Sciences 1985
Beginning in 1981 - when Benedict XVI was first appointed then as Cardinal Ratzinger as head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith 1981 – he has been and remains intensely vigilance, systematically silencing and removing, any bishop, priest, sister, theologian and other Catholic personnel supportive of gay people and gay rights.
Milestones in campaign to hold the doctrinal line – 7/30/1999, National Catholic Reporter – Ratzinger’s efforts to prevent evolution in church teaching toward acceptance of homosexuals 1984-1999.
One case of Ratzinger’s from the 1980s that lasted nearly over a decade involves his “crackdown” on Archbishop Hunthausen of Seattle, Washington who supported of gay people and gay rights that has been researched as doctoral dissertation by Timothy Peter Schilling.
“Conflict in the Catholic Hierarchy: A Study of Coping Strategies in the Hunthausen Affair, with Preferential Attention to Discursive Strategies” 2003 by Timothy Peter Schilling
http://igitur-archive.library.uu.nl/dissertations/2003-0206-111237/inhoud.htm It was the consensus, at that time, among the hierarchy, clergy and religious that Archbishop Hunthausen of Seattle, Washington was being used to intimidate and provoke fear in all employees in the Church, a demonstration of Ratzinger establishing his power.
Of significant importance is a letter that Ratzinger sent to Hunthausen dated 9/30/1985. In this letter the divide is clear Hunthausen emphases the renewal of Vatican II and the guidance of the Holy Spirit and Ratzinger focus is on a ridged and unchanging hold to authentic tradition. What is alarming is Ratzinger’s dismissal of the relevance of human sciences. “The Church should be understood as more than a merely social entity, governed chiefly by psychological, sociological and political processes,” Ratzinger writes. “An anthropology which is dominated by the tentative conclusions of the human sciences could well undermine many pastoral initiatives, however well intentioned.” http://igitur-archive.library.uu.nl/dissertations/2003-0206-111237/c6.pdf
It explains his unconscionable disregard of the decades of authoritative research data related to sexual orientation, human sexuality and his holding on to the unsubstantiated antigay teachings of the Vatican’s. This is a complete break in Pope John Paul II reasoning for not separating science and religion, when he apologized to Galileo stating he was right and the Vatican was wrong – as the Vatican is wrong today about sexual orientation. Ratzinger has made a complete break from truth, which is extremely life threatening to millions of lives of children and adults. It is a crime against humanity.
Archbishop Asks Rome To Ease Up – 9/28/1986 - Chicago Tribune
…The more philosophical and historically grounded warnings raised by Archbishop Weakland…in his columns, titled ``The Price of Orthodoxy,`` …appeared to be directing his remarks to Vatican inquisitors…
…He contended that previous efforts to monitor and safeguard Catholic doctrine have been undertaken in an atmosphere where ``amateurs-turned-theologians easily became headhunters and leaders were picked (on the basis of) the rigidity of their doctrine, so that often second-rate and repressive minds, riding on the waves of fear, took over.
``Religion under such circumstances then can become an ideology that tolerates no obstacle and that values ideas more than people,`` he wrote…
GAY MARRIAGE - Benedict XVI Dismisses Science
Renders His use of
NATURAL LAW being "NONSENSE UPON STILTS"
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This posting is part of a larger one and was sent out as a US mailing prior to posting here on the Thalamus Center
This is the beginning post of a series that attempts to analyze Benedict XVI and the hierarchy subtle systematic increments of often-disguised antigay propaganda, how innocent people unknowingly are colluding by their silence, how it leads to the devaluation other groups, and what suggestions might be helpful to begin to stop it not only for gay people but for every human being. This first post begins with an attempt to explain the different perspectives of how Natural Law viewed by others and then to understand Benedict XVI’s elitist attitude, the inordinate importance he seems to place on his use of Natural Law concept, which is over and beyond that of the Gospels and scientific research.
An Overview of Benedict XVI’s Natural Law
Benedict XVI sole reliance on Natural Law without reason / science - above the spoken words of Christ led him into absurdity into many areas, especially regarding his public remarks against gay marriage (a surreal quality) that became and remains life-threatening to innocent people in the world, especially children. His understanding is that to contradict Natural Law is to bring on the destruct of the world. This is one of his reasons to deprive gay people of their civil rights. However, Natural Law is a theory, a human construct and that is not above the Gospels. “These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. “They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules.” Photo
“The term “natural law” is ambiguous.” “In the history of human thought few words have created as much confusion as the words "nature" and "law…” Natural Law is not without its critics - claiming that it is “rhetorical nonsense,” and “nonsense upon stilts.” It is a false impression that Law is rooted in Natural Law, it is in the will of the sovereign. There is a superimposed esoteric quality, an elitist attitude that Benedict XVI assumes in his understanding and use of Natural Law that by definition eliminates it from the realm of Catholicism. Meaning that governing the Church is relegated to a very small group. “Among intellectuals who consider themselves ‘scientific,’" who insist, “…faith in the supernatural is deemed necessary to belief in natural law the latter concept must be tossed out of scientific, secular discourse, and be consigned to the arcane sphere of the divine studies.” “It is an additional mistake to think that any rights are unalterable…Hence the famous slogan…'natural rights is simple nonsense: natural and imprescriptible rights, rhetorical nonsense, nonsense upon stilts.'” (Reference links to the above are found below.)
“The idea of a natural law founded on reason and rational inquiry has been virtually lost.” Benedict XVI almost immediately after becoming pope – he removed all the scientists that Pope John Paul II had insisted be on all the committees in the Vatican. Benedict XVI is the head of state of the Vatican. To “…stress that the very existence of a natural law discoverable by reason is a potentially powerful threat to the status quo and a standing reproach to the reign of blindly traditional custom or the arbitrary will of the State apparatus.” “While natural-law theory has often been used erroneously in defense of the political status quo, its radical and "revolutionary" implications were brilliantly understood by the great Catholic libertarian historian Lord Acton.
“In 1870 came the great crisis in Catholicism over the First Vatican Council's promulgation of the doctrine of papal infallibility.”
“…I cannot accept your canon that we are to judge Pope and King unlike other men, with a favourable presumption that they did no wrong. If there is any presumption it is the other way, against the holders of power, increasing as the power increases. Historic responsibility has to make up for the want of legal responsibility. Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority, still more when you superadd the tendency or the certainty of corruption by authority. There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it.” (Reference links to the above are found below.)
Benedict XVI has no oversight, which has led to, as we have found out, immeasurable human atrocities of the decades of child sexual abuse cover-ups and worst. Benedict XVI non-existence oversight has been in actuality and continues to threaten humanity’s future. And the silence of Catholics is a form of collusion that allows Benedict XVI free reign to continue his human atrocities, even beyond the decades of child sexual abuse cover-ups yet to be revealed. Though not limited to - Benedict XVI and the hierarchy are continuously devaluing gay people, while ignoring all the research data that sexual orientation is a normal part of human development and the fact the bible does not condemn homosexuality.
Fr. Marty Kurylowicz
Benedict XVI - Demeaning Accusations of Gay People -
Lacking Evidence / Reason – Corruption of Natural Law
All human life is sacred. Human life is never to be devalued or demeaned in any way by anyone. To deliberately devalue anyone or any group of human beings while others remain silent is what will destroy humanity as a whole – not gay marriage (Pope: Gay marriage threatens humanity’s future, Jan. 9, 2012).
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere"
Martin Luther King
‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’ Matthew 25:34
NATURAL LAW - "NONSENSE UPON STILTS"
"NATURAL LAW" AND LAWS OF NATURE
In the history of human thought few words have created as much confusion as the words "nature" and "law". They can assume very different meanings, and these meanings are not always made sufficiently clear. Indeed, when people use the words in an argument, they often switch from one meaning to another without becoming aware of it and thus trap themselves in logical fallacies.
NATURAL LAW is AMBIGUOUS
The term “natural law” is ambiguous. It refers to a type of moral theory, as well as to a type of legal theory, but the core claims of the two kinds of theory are logically independent. It does not refer to the laws of nature, the laws that science aims to describe. According to natural law moral theory, the moral standards that govern human behavior are, in some sense, objectively derived from the nature of human beings and the nature of the world. While being logically independent of natural law legal theory, the two theories intersect.
LAWS OF NATURE
Laws of Nature are to be distinguished both from Scientific Laws and from Natural Laws.
NATURAL LAW - "NONSENSE UPON STILTS"
Jeremy Bentham (15 February 1748 – 6 June 1832) was an English jurist, philosopher, and legal and social reformer. He became a leading theorist in Anglo-American philosophy of law…
His position included arguments in favour of individual and economic freedom, usury, the separation of church and state, freedom of expression, equal rights for women, the right to divorce, and the decriminalising of homosexual acts. He argued for the abolition of slavery and the death penalty and for the abolition of physical punishment, including that of children. Although strongly in favour of the extension of individual legal rights, he opposed the idea of natural law and natural rights, calling them "nonsense upon stilts."
HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT UNNATURAL
An Offense Against God to refer otherwise
Homosexuality is not unnatural. It is normal part of human development, according to research from all the major medical and mental health associations (references listed below). Sexual orientation is set either just before birth or very soon afterwards. Pope John Paul II was not afraid of the truth. He was able to move forward towards acceptance of homosexuality because he insisted that scientists and theologians work together in committees at the Vatican, this information comes from sources inside the Vatican.
The Right Law Is One In Accordance With Reason
Bentham's aim is to produce felicity, happiness. The means to be employed are 'reason and law': the right law will produce happiness, and the right law is one in accordance with reason. This means one in accordance with the principle of utility. In Bentham's draft codes of law, each particular law was attached to a 'commentary of reasons on this law'. The commentary demonstrated its value and also, Bentham hoped, improved its effect. For, as he says elsewhere, 'power gives reason to law for the moment, but it is upon reason that it must depend for its stability.'
Natural Law and Reason
Among intellectuals who consider themselves "scientific," the phrase "the nature of man" is apt to have the effect of a red flag on a bull. "Man has no nature!" is the modern rallying cry and typical of the sentiment of political philosophers today was the assertion of a distinguished political theorist some years ago before a meeting of the American Political Science Association that "man's nature" is a purely theological concept that must be dismissed from any scientific discussion.
In the controversy over man's nature, and over the broader and more controversial concept of "natural law," both sides have repeatedly proclaimed that natural law and theology are inextricably intertwined. As a result, many champions of natural law, in scientific or philosophic circles, have gravely weakened their case by implying that rational, philosophical methods alone cannot establish such law: that theological faith is necessary to maintain the concept. On the other hand, the opponents of natural law have gleefully agreed; since faith in the supernatural is deemed necessary to belief in natural law, the latter concept must be tossed out of scientific, secular discourse, and be consigned to the arcane sphere of the divine studies. In consequence, the idea of a natural law founded on reason and rational inquiry has been virtually lost.
The Ethics of Liberty - Murray N. Rothbard
Benedict XVI Dismisses Science Reason – Natural Law
It was also revealed that almost immediately after Ratzinger became Benedict XVI April 2005, he had all the scientists removed from committees in the Vatican. At that time there was real shock and concerned for people as to how could theologians alone make decisions regarding sexual orientation. This truly began the point of the blind leading the blind. It was not only that the scientists who were removed, but Benedict XVI dismissed all scientific data, as irrelevant. This becomes painfully obvious in Benedict XVI and the hierarchy’s irrational public statements regarding homosexuals and gay marriage because they are completely divorced from reality. Benedict XVI after removing all the scientists then all he had left was to obsessively focus on a human construct such as “natural law,” which is meaningless without the insight of science. All that Benedict XVI knows is “natural law” concepts, however, this is an incomplete picture of the world of all that God created, because it negates the ability of human mind to continually to explore, to discover and to learn. This ability of the human mind is what makes life fascinating – continually, most especially when it discovers love and its endless complexities that are all slices of heaven.
Natural Law - Reign of Blindly Traditional Custom or Arbitrary Will
If, then, the natural law is discovered by reason from "the basic inclinations of human nature … absolute, immutable, and of universal validity for all times and places," it follows that the natural law provides an objective set of ethical norms by which to gauge human actions at any time or place. The natural law is, in essence, a profoundly "radical" ethic, for it holds the existing status quo, which might grossly violate natural law, up to the unsparing and unyielding light of reason. In the realm of politics or State action, the natural law presents man with a set of norms which may well be radically critical of existing positive law imposed by the State. At this point, we need only stress that the very existence of a natural law discoverable by reason is a potentially powerful threat to the status quo and a standing reproach to the reign of blindly traditional custom or the arbitrary will of the State apparatus.
In fact, the legal principles of any society can be established in three alternate ways: (a) by following the traditional custom of the tribe or community; (b) by obeying the arbitrary, ad hoc will of those who rule the State apparatus; or (c) by the use of man's reason in discovering the natural law — in short, by slavish conformity to custom, by arbitrary whim, or by use of man's reason. These are essentially the only possible ways for establishing positive law. Here we may simply affirm that the latter method is at once the most appropriate for man at his most nobly and fully human, and the most potentially "revolutionary" vis-à-vis any given status quo…
While natural-law theory has often been used erroneously in defense of the political status quo, its radical and "revolutionary" implications were brilliantly understood by the great Catholic libertarian historian Lord Acton. Acton saw clearly that the deep flaw in the ancient Greek — and their later followers' — conception of natural law political philosophy was to identify politics and morals, and then to place the supreme social moral agent in the State. From Plato and Aristotle, the State's proclaimed supremacy was founded in their view that "morality was undistinguished from religion and politics from morals; and in religion, morality, and politics there was only one legislator and one authority."
The Ethics of Liberty - Murray N. Rothbard
“‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules.’”
Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen and understand. What goes into someone’s mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them.”
Then the disciples came to him and asked, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?”
He replied, “Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. Leave them; they are blind guides. If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.” Matthew 15:8-14
Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
In 1870 came the great crisis in Catholicism over the First Vatican Council's promulgation of the doctrine of papal infallibility. Lord Acton, who was in complete sympathy on this subject with Döllinger, went to Rome in order to throw all his influence against it, but the step he so much dreaded was not to be averted. The Old Catholic separation followed, but Acton did not personally join the seceders, and the authorities prudently refrained from forcing the hand of so competent and influential an English layman. It was in this context that, in a letter he wrote to scholar and ecclesiastic Mandell Creighton, dated April 1887, Acton made his most famous pronouncement:
But if we might discuss this point until we found that we nearly agreed, and if we do agree thoroughly about the impropriety of Carlylese denunciations and Pharisaism in history, I cannot accept your canon that we are to judge Pope and King unlike other men, with a favourable presumption that they did no wrong. If there is any presumption it is the other way, against the holders of power, increasing as the power increases. Historic responsibility has to make up for the want of legal responsibility. Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority, still more when you superadd the tendency or the certainty of corruption by authority. There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it. That is the point at which the negation of Catholicism and the negation of Liberalism meet and keep high festival, and the end learns to justify the means. You would hang a man of no position like Ravaillac; but if what one hears is true, then Elizabeth asked the gaoler to murder Mary, and William III. ordered his Scots minister to extirpate a clan. Here are the greatest names coupled with the greatest crimes; you would spare those criminals, for some mysterious reason. I would hang them higher than Haman, for reasons of quite obvious justice, still more, still higher for the sake of historical science…
Letter to Bishop Mandell Creighton, April 5, 1887 published in Historical Essays and Studies, edited by J. N. Figgis and R. V. Laurence (London: Macmillan, 1907)
Benedict XVI and the hierarchy’
Implicit Child Abuse -
Irresponsible Anti-gay & Disguised Anti-gay Public Statements
To assign a child who is gay to a loveless life is against natural law, this it is inhumane. Scientific research reveals that sexual orientation is set before the age of reason; therefore there is no evil intent or intrinsic disordering (a meaningless term that used by Benedict XVI has yet to be defined). Research data explains that a child raised in an anti-gay social environment of non-acceptance places a child at risk, depression, isolation, suicidal ideation, drug addiction, and actuality of future goals.
Family Acceptance Project™
In-Depth Family Interviews, Case Studies and Surveys
Gay Marriage - Improves Health
“Marriage equality advocates have another reason to feel dedicated to their cause today, as a revelatory new study has found that the health of gay men living in states with laws allowing same-sex couples to wed actually improves their health, even if they don't get hitched.” Same sex couples in relationships are in fact sacred because of their commitment to love and deserve the sanity of marriage and that it should be celebrated in a Church - even a Catholic Church. In any thing less is to ridicule, to dehumanize them and this is sacrilegious, because it is not only mocking the couple’s love but God, as well.
Same-Sex Marriage Improves Health Conditions Among Gay Men: Columbia University Study – December 16, 2011
Homosexuality | Natural Law
Queer Theory and the Social Construction of Sexuality
Metaphysics Research Lab - Stanford University - February 11, 2011
The debates about homosexuality, in part because they often involve public policy and legal issues, tend to be sharply polarized. Those most concerned with homosexuality, positively or negatively, are also those most engaged, with natural law theorists arguing for gays and lesbians having a reduced legal status, and queer theorists engaged in critique and deconstruction of what they see as a heterosexist regime. Yet the two do not talk much to one another, but rather ignore or talk past one another. There are some theorists in the middle. For example, Michael Sandel takes an Aristotelian approach from which he argues that gay and lesbian relationships can realize the same goods that heterosexual relationships do (Sandel, 1995). He largely shares the account of important human goods that natural law theorists have, yet in his evaluation of the worth of same-sex relationships, he is clearly sympathetic to gay and lesbian concerns. Similarly, Bruce Bawer (1993) and Andrew Sullivan (1995) have written eloquent defenses of full legal equality for gays and lesbians, including marriage rights.
How “Natural Law” Supports Gay Marriage, Gay Adoption – July 23, 2011
“Natural law” is widely quoted as justification for arguments against homoerotic relationships and sexual expression: many of the laws that used to exist, where they did not use the word “sodomy”, relied on terms such as “crimes against nature”. However, whenever I draw on evidence from the world of nature to show that same-sex intercourse is in fact commonly observed throughout the animal kingdom, and so cannot be said to be “against nature” at all, I know that somebody will argue that this is not, in fact, what “natural law” means at all.
Smugness – Natural Law – Galileo
The smugness of some of the proponents of natural law and Galileo, fail to see that homosexuality is found in all societies and every species of the animal kingdom. However, these proponents tend to be blind about the true issues of natural law and tend to be subjective and arbitrary in their debate, negating science. They still remain being the blind leading the blind. It is their smugness, which is pride and fear that keeps them blind. Jesus even cautions saying to leave them. Leave them; they are blind guides. If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit” (Matthew 15:8-14). Loving another person is not unnatural therefore it is not against natural law What is unnatural are the adults projecting their private sexual erotic thoughts, wishes and desires onto another human being and then condemning a whole specific population of human beings. “How can you say to your brother, ‘Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye”(Luke 6:42). The politicians who fearlessly condemn homosexual behavior as unnatural were found in public restroom having sex.
Top 10 Anti-Gay Politicians & Activists Caught Being Gay: Out of The Closet
George Rekers, Pastor Eddie Long, Troy King, Ted Haggard, Glenn Murphy Jr., David Dreier, Bruce Barclay, Roy Ashburn, Jim West, Larry Craig, Ed Schrock, Robert Allen, Mark Foley, Phillip Hinkle
Vatican - Procuring Male Prostitutes – March 4, 2010
The Vatican was today rocked by a sex scandal reaching into Pope Benedict's household after a chorister was sacked for allegedly procuring male prostitutes for a papal gentleman-in-waiting.
NATURAL LAW - "Nonsense Upon Stilts" - Jeremy Bentham
Jeremy Bentham (15 February 1748 – 6 June 1832) was an English jurist, philosopher, and legal and social reformer. He became a leading theorist in Anglo-American philosophy of law…His position included arguments in favour of individual and economic freedom, usury, the separation of church and state, freedom of expression, equal rights for women, the right to divorce, and the decriminalising of homosexual acts. He argued for the abolition of slavery and the death penalty and for the abolition of physical punishment, including that of children. Although strongly in favour of the extension of individual legal rights, he opposed the idea of natural law and natural rights, calling them "nonsense upon stilts."
Natural Law | Will of the Sovereign
Bentham held that law is not rooted in a “natural law” but is simply a command expressing the will of the sovereign…
According to Bentham, then, the term “natural right” is a “perversion of language.” It is “ambiguous,” “sentimental” and “figurative” and it has anarchical consequences.
Natural Rights |Timeless & Unalterable - is Simple Nonsense
Bentham's most famous slogan expressing this view is 'nonsense on stilts'. This comes from his critical analysis of the French Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen in a work usually known as Anarchical Fallacies (which, in fact, is Dumont's title). Bentham's claim is that language which looks as if it is describing what rights there actually are is in fact suggesting what rights there ought to be. That is, instead of citing existing rights, the French Declaration is giving reasons why there ought to be rights. As Bentham puts it in Anarchical Fallacies, 'a reason for wishing that a certain right were established, is not that right; want is not supply; hunger is not bread'. So to suppose that such rights actually exist is nonsense. Even worse is to suppose that we can be sure that the correct rights have been found for all time. For Bentham is a promoter of experimentation. We have to keep seeing what utility is actually produced by particular systems of rights. Hence it is an additional mistake to think that any rights are unalterable (indefeasible, imprescriptible). This mistake was also made by the French. Hence the famous slogan. The complete remark from which it comes is 'natural rights is simple nonsense: natural and imprescriptible rights, rhetorical nonsense, nonsense upon stilts.'
Benedict XVI Anti-Gay Obsession - Void of Reason
Threatens All of Humanity
What threatens the future of humanity is the abandonment of reason. (1) This is especially true when a world religious leader, such as Benedict XVI, intentionally and consistently makes public demeaning statements targeting gay people worldwide. Benedict XVI completely denies the global authoritative evidence to the contrary, that sexual orientation is a normal part of human development and (2) that a child growing up gay is susceptible, as any child is to harsh negative rejection abuse, which causes life long devastating effects.
Benedict XVI abandoned reason in the same way that the Vatican’s Church Officials and the Pope condemned Galileo as a heretic for stating that the earth revolves around the sun, which is contrary to numerously passages in the bible that the earth does not move. However, nearly 350 years later, Pope John Paul II apologized to Galileo for this gross negligence of the use of reason. “The Vatican's formal acknowledgement of an error, moreover, is a rarity in an institution built over centuries on the belief that the Church is the final arbiter in matters of faith…Pope John Paul II himself has said that the scientist was ‘imprudently opposed.’"
Trial of Galileo Galilei – 1633
Pope: Gay marriage threatens humanity’s future - January 9, 2012
Psychology of Violence - David Livingstone Smith
Family Acceptance Project™
Do People Choose Their Sexual Orientation?
Science of Sexual Orientation
Sexual Orientation is about Love – to be one with another…
Homosexuality & The Bible
After 350 Years, Vatican Says Galileo Was Right: It Moves – October 31, 1992
“Know Yourself” Pope John Paul II - Encyclical Letter - …On The Relationship Between Faith And Reason – September 15, 1998
GALILEO'S BATTLE FOR THE HEAVENS - October 29, 2002
More reference links:
Benedict XVI’s Child Sexual Abuse - Cover-ups
Against Authoritative Research
Wrongfully Shifts Blame Onto Gays
(3) Benedict XVI and the hierarchy have continually tried to evade their responsibility for the 3 past decades of covering up the child sexual abuse cases by shifting the blame onto homosexuals as the root cause for the child sexual abuse. However, authoritative research for the past several decades has clearly stated that homosexual orientation is not the cause of child sexual abuse, though Benedict XVI has ignored these findings.
Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation
John Jay Criminal Justice Initial Report on Child Sexual Abuse - November 17, 2009
…the John Jay report confirms other studies in concluding that sexual orientation is NOT connected to pedophilia or other sex crimes.
Some bishops, however, said it is too early to draw conclusions about the researchers' findings.
"I wouldn't put a lot of credence in it," said Archbishop John Nienstedt of the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis…He has also written that HOMOSEXUAL ORIENTATION IS THE RESULT OF CHILDHOOD TRAUMA.
Cardinal Sean O'Malley of Boston said Nov. 18 that the researchers' conclusions still "need to be teased out."
…But the view that gay men are largely responsible for the sexual abuse scandal PERVADES THE CHURCH HIERARCHY, said David Gibson, a Catholic journalist and author, and will not necessarily be overcome by the John Jay study.
"I think it will give cover to the bishops who want to continue to admit gay men into the seminary, as I think a majority of them want to do," Gibson said. "For those bishops dead-set against having any homosexuals in the priesthood, it won't make a difference."
David Clohessy, national director of the Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests, said that "the fixation on gay priests" as the cause of the sex scandal "is part of a long litany of simplistic, wrong-headed solutions and SCAPE-GOATING," by the Catholic hierarchy.
"Sadly, many Catholics have already reached that conclusion though, due
to the bishops' spin," Clohessy said. "The real issue continues to be the bishops' bad behavior."
New Catholic Sex Abuse Findings: Gay Priests Are Not the Problem – November 18, 2009
John Jay FINIAL Report on Clergy Abuse in the Catholic Church – “... NO causative relationship between…homosexuality and the sexual victimization of children in the Church.” May 18, 2011
Fr. Marty Kurylowicz
Catholics Support Same-Sex Marriage at Polls – 12/12/12
…the position of Bishops in the Catholic church, saying “[they] draw on the philosophical tradition of natural law to argue that sex–if it is to be properly ‘ordered’–must be open to procreation. It is on these grounds that Catholic bishops officially oppose not only homosexual sex, but also contraception and a whole host of other activities and behaviors. Others–both Catholics and non-Catholics–standing outside the bishops’ philosophical tradition, do not at all see these behaviors as somehow ‘unnatural.’”
“…Many taking the church’s positions on sexual ethics call their arguments ‘natural’ in order to cut off arguments that would challenge their moral ideology. For example, the Church’s opposition to same sex marriage takes for granted the idea that men and women have innate gender differences which complement each other. These supposedly ‘natural’ differences make their unions wholesome from the church’s vantage point. They suppose same-sex couples to lack this complementarity and therefore to be a threat to society and any children they raise. But these rigid ideas about gender are regularly undermined by people’s experiences of gender and by people’s different experiences of love. This is why many Catholics, drawing on their own experience and their consciences, support gay marriage.”…
Pope blasts gay marriage, LGBT groups return fire – 12/22/12
Pope stresses family values, denounces ‘manipulation’ of gender amid gay marriage gains – 12/19/12
Dutch anger over pope's gay marriage condemnation – 12/22/12
Dutch foreign affairs minister Frans Timmermans has criticised the pope for his recent statements on homosexuality, RTL news reported on Saturday.
‘If every person is unique, as the pope’s representative said in Dublin last week, then why should that unique person not have the right to stand up for their own sexual orientation?’ Timmermans is quoted as saying.
'Why can Romeo marry Julia but not Julius?' the minister told RTL. ‘Marriage between two people of the same sex is having respect for the uniqueness of the individual.’…
The COC gay rights lobby group has called on Timmermans to summon the pope’s representative in the Netherlands and to campaign to have the Vatican lose its special position within the United Nations…
Religion Big Factor for Americans Against Same-Sex Marriage – 12/05/12
Overall, 53% favor legalized same-sex marriage, tying previous record high
by Frank Newport
PRINCETON, NJ -- Americans who oppose the legalization of same-sex marriage, 46% of the adult population, are most likely to explain their position on the basis of religious beliefs and/or interpretation of biblical passages dealing with same-sex relations.
SEXUAL ORIENTATION is less about sex and more about LOVE, being one with another human being - Attachment Theory
“Nothing in life is more precious than the intimate relationships we have with love ones.” LOVE & RELIGION – 2009
by Fr. Marty Kurylowicz
AUSCHWITZ -- CHRISTMAS 2008 - Benedict XVI -- A flashback far more severe than in --- BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN
Fr. Marty Kurylowicz
"Reparative Therapy" or "Conversion Therapy" – To Change Sexual Orientation - Lack Medical Justification, THREATEN HEALTH - Are ETHICALLY UNACCEPTABLE – 9/1/12
GAY MARRIAGE – Homosexuality for Catholics or anyone? "WHY IT IS A 'GIFT' FROM GOD!!!" And when we accept and value this gift from God – we are able to experience love like never before, and we are able to love. | PART 7
GAY MARRIAGE – UNIDENTIFIED - Internalized Homophobia - Benedict XVI, Hierarchy & Blind Followers - GAY-BASHERS UK & US | UK Blair & Cameron Legalization of Gay Marriage | Kids Are Being Hurt!!! | PART 8
GAY? - J. EDGAR HOOVER and BENEDICT XVI - Homophobic Men - Repressed Homosexual Feelings – Paranoia Projection - a "tragic story…HOW DANGEROUS SEXUAL REPRESSION IS." 12/02/12